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November 2011

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trans boy femme-shaming

revcleo:

brennando:

It’s not a secret that there are many people within the trans* community who shame femme trans boys. There have even been communities on Tumblr who have said they don’t want to post femme trans boys on their pages just because they’re femme and they don’t want to be associated with that.

I have something to say about all of this.

None. Of. This. Is. Okay.

What you’re saying when you tell a trans guy he can’t or shouldn’t be femme is; “Real men aren’t feminine,” “You’re ruining it for the rest of us,” “People are going to see people like you and think we’re really just girls.” These statements are all extremely rude and extremely WRONG. 

When you perpetuate these statements, you are showing that you are transphobic (Yes, trans people can be transphobic). You are paving a path and making it seem like it is okay for other people to say these dangerous things. 

In reality, there are millions of different kinds of men. Some of them are feminine. It’s really not going to end the world — I promise. If you are someone who shames femme trans men, you need to take a step back and realize what you are doing. You’re merely enforcing the binary gender system — Now, I don’t think it is a problem if you are binary identified, however, what is a problem is when you start to tell other people that they need to be binary identified as well.

Respect other people’s identities. Be confident in your own identity — why are you so afraid / threatened by the femme trans boys? Is it because we’re challenging society’s perception of what being trans or what being male is “really about?”

Because we are. 

I think everyone should live how they want to — just realize that there is so much diversity within (and outside of) the trans* community. We should be celebrating diversity instead of shaming it. We should be working together instead of pushing people away just because they don’t fit what you think is “really trans” or “really male.”

If someone says they’re male, they’re male. If someone says they’re trans, they’re trans. It’s that simple. It makes me so sad to hear stories of other trans people who feel alienated even within the trans* community. This needs to change.

I think this is along with the people who think they have to list stereotypical masculine behaviour they’ve done when growing up and all to prove to themselves and others that they’re male.

If you’re male, then you’re male. Not if you liked the boys toys at McDonalds. Femme boys both trans and not are perfectly fine <3

not to disagree with any of the above, but for some of us in the less-LGBT-aware countries of the world, it’s the only way to be taken seriously by psychiatrists and allowed to transition.

I’m not even that feminine (was wrongly perceived as a lesbian for a large part of my life), but the psychiatrist who assessed me for GID was decidedly unimpressed that I’m attracted exclusively to guys and wasn’t some hypermasculine trans male stereotype (I hate sports, the thought of having IRL sex disturbs me, I have no plans for surgery, etc.) In his report to the doctor, he used female pronouns for me all the way and suggested I get a second opinion because he wasn’t convinced. And he’s one of the foremost trans-specialists in the country.

so.

freedom of gender expression is a privilege in itself.

Nov 22, 2011489 notes
#ftm #transgender
TW: rape, anti-trans violence For the Love of Transmisandry → prettyqueer.com

lindentea:

amaevis:

lizardwalk:

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It doesn’t just bother me that the only trans woman on stage was an afterthought, disempowered and invited at the last minute because the organizers wanted to look inclusive. It doesn’t just bother me that at least one or two rad trans women probably showed up to the first planning meeting but were totally pushed out prior to the group having to find a token trans woman to appear on stage at the last minute. It doesn’t just bother me that the performers were white trans men in college, making no place in the organization for trans women of color sex workers, all while claiming trans women of color sex workers’ experiences as their own.  It doesn’t just bother me that Aydyn & Jaydyn & Caydyn & Gaydyn have actually deluded themselves and really believe their sensationalized fantasy that they will be murdered for trying to go to the bathroom, in spite of the fact that, as a trans man who probably looks a lot like Aydyn & friends, I can say pretty confidently that that’s not something I’ve ever worried about in real life. It doesn’t just bother me that these guys have these smug looks of martyrdom spread across their faces and that they actually believe themselves to be some sort of heroes or “voices” of the “trans community”.

What really bothers me—what really just makes my skin crawl—is that everyone in the audience fucking loves them for it. That everyone in the audience is apparently blind to the fact that transmisogyny is going on in their own, “safe,” queer community, and that bullshit like this is its very birthplace. Or, worse, maybe they’re not blind to it, but they don’t do anything to stop it, they don’t think it’s important and they still treat the purveyors of transmisogyny in the queer community like gods or something. It pretty much makes me want to vomit.

…

I saw this earlier somewhere else and found it really fucking triggery.  Because that one trans dude - from Portland, what a surprise - has apparently been really fucking lucky and privileged if this is his experience.

You know why I’m afraid of being murdered?  Cos people have threatened to kill me.  Why I’m afraid of being raped?  Cos I’ve been raped.  Afraid of being assaulted?  Cos I’ve been assaulted.  Feel unsafe in queer spaces?  Cos of cis gay guys calling me a fagtrap and saying I deserve to be raped.  (Yeah, right, I am *totally* going to get laid because I’m a trans guy.  If I want to shag a lesbian who misgenders and fetishises me.)  Afraid of being denied crucial medical care?  Cos I was denied crucial medical care.  Afraid of losing a job?  Cos I was fired.  Because I’m trans.

But that’s all a ~sensationalist fantasy~ cos I’m a trans guy, isn’t it?

Fuck this rape-culture-supporting, privilege-denying, trans-hating bullshit right in the fucking eye.

I have never been in a trans space that had more trans guys than women other than *trans male only* spaces.  So I can tell you straight off that this dude’s experiences of “queer spaces” are far from universal.

Yeah, there are trans dudebro douches out there, just like there are cis male douches.  But I don’t need some trans guy from fucking Portland (or San Francisco, which is normally the other place) bringing his Aydyn jokes and erasure and denial that other trans guys *might not have walked through life with the same fucking blithe untouched privilege he has* as proof of his more-radikewl-than-thou solidarity with trans women.

Many of us work towards solidarity with trans women and *still have valid fucking reasons* to be afraid.  The two things aren’t mutually exclusive, so don’t fucking pretend that I have no reason to be afraid.  I could fucking wish my flashbacks on this smug fucker.  I do not need this shit all up on my dash.

Maybe I’ll regret posting this, but I’ve already spent time tonight shaking and wanting to puke cos of this and now seeing it again is really fucking not good.

Insta-follow.

Does it bother me that the queer cis female community doesn’t accept me? Yes. Is that my biggest problem? No.

If my biggest problem were getting into your queer dance party, then I have it really damn good.

This author is obviously writing from the perspective of someone young, college-educated, and living in and among the queer cis female community. To universalize that as the trans* masculine experience is bullshit.

The ironic thing is that he’s totally going to get laid for writing this. And as a trans woman, it bothers me that a trans man saying exactly what I say gets credibility, while I do not.

I swear I’ve been seeing a trend of trans guys, 99% of the time from Portland or San Francisco, who seem to have come down with Tim Wise Syndrome, where they make blog post after blog post about specific dynamics of transmisogyny in the queer communities of people in a certain age and class range who live in certain cities, but at this point all I can see is GIVE ME MY ALLY COOKIE NOW, LOOK AT HOW AGAINST TRANSMISOGYNY I AM, and they get so many kudos and praise while trans women who said the same shit before them get ignored, and it’s like, ok, I can’t exactly disagree with what they say (except, like you said above, when they generalize and assume that all queer/trans community dynamics are exactly like those in Portland or SF, which really does kind of enrage me), in the same way that I can’t disagree with the major talking points of what people like Tim Wise or Ward Churchill say about racism and white privilege… but that doesn’t mean it’s not a fucked up trend. Y’know what I mean? Or am I part of the problem just by saying this? Ack, I don’t know, it’s just something that’s been bothering me a lot lately. It’s like, there’s signal boosting and solidarity… and then there’s Tim Wise Syndrome.

I am kind of thinking that trans men need to start focusing more signal boosting what people actually affected by (especially the intersection of) transmisogyny and racism are saying, instead of continuing to make new posts about it because they just absolutely need to get their ~unique perspective~ out there. Ok, I’m done. I should really to go to bed.

I have no idea how ancient this post is, but thank you so much for all those responses up there. I read the OP and felt guilty and triggered, and then felt guilty and triggered for feeling guilty and triggered, and it’s great to know that I’m not alone.

- a gay trans guy in Singapore, where homosexuality is illegal and trans people are just thought of as extremely gay people

Nov 22, 2011102 notes
1616) I've been on T for two months, and still have 0 sex drive. I guess that part of me is gone forever.

i’m jealous. can we swap.
being horny has a tendency to trigger me.

…which has been happening a lot since starting T.

Nov 6, 20113 notes
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