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February 2012

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Amy Dentata: Re: Men are not the victims of sexism. → amydentata.tumblr.com

amydentata:

aaskew42:

Thanks. I understand the Mike Tyson example; but what would you then consider ‘openly violent oppression’, using the previous analogy? Because for me, the phrase “beat the crap out of someone” suggests that the acting subject is fully aware of what they are doing and chooses to do so; it thus differs from the act of hurting someone without intending to, even if the result might be the same.

That’s why it’s a metaphor.

Regarding Tyson - is there then any possible way in which he could act or speak that would not be violent, or is violence an unavoidable, inherent part of his existence as a privileged person within society? If so, can he rightly be blamed or condemned for something he cannot help or change?

1. Yes, it’s inherent. 2. This isn’t about blame. Recognizing privilege isn’t about blame. It’s about recognizing the power you wield, and adjusting your behavior accordingly so you don’t step on other people.

Understood, thanks!

Would you consider it ethically wrong to act in ways that directly increase one’s privilege, since the act of doing so will simultaneously increase the inherent oppression and violence one’s existence enforces over others? Here I’m thinking specifically about trans men transitioning to male, where things such as going on T allows us to obtain increasing male privilege by being perceived and treated as male, and thus oppress/hurt women, even if unintentionally; where this additional hurt would not exist or be minimised if the trans man did not go on hormones and/or decides to continue living being perceived as a woman.

Or is this a matter of a necessary and unavoidable evil in cases where medical transition is required for the well-being of the trans man in question? Should the process of starting FTM transition then be considered with greater thought and sensitivity than MTF transition, given its additional ability to hurt women, and is something that should only be undergone if the ethical benefits outweigh the potential damage?

I realise that it’s hard to quantify oppressions, such as transphobia vs. misogyny, which makes it hard to know what the right thing to do is in various situations where the two are placed in opposition. e.g. if I’m in a situation with women present where I’m wrongly perceived as female (name, pronouns etc), would it be wrong to correct them and by so doing establish my male privilege over them where previously it would not have been there as an indirect force of oppression or harm? Would the potential harm against women outweigh the potential transphobic harm against myself? Even if not, would it be selfish to put my own needs above those of the women in question?

(sorry if this is getting too nitpicky; I’m autistic and need to overanalyse things before I’m comfortable enough with knowing how to act correctly in particular social situations, and more nuanced aspects of morality have always given me trouble. I currently haven’t been correcting people when they use female pronouns for me mainly because of this issue, and wanting to minimise my male privilege where possible, but have been getting a lot of conflicting advice from the trans community.)

Feb 26, 2012122 notes
Don't be afraid to bleed, afraid to dream: Re: Men are not the victims of sexism. → 77825225672443.tumblr.com

aaskew42:

77825225672443:

aaskew42:

amydentata:

aaskew42:

“Male privilege means men bare their knuckles without even trying to. Recognizing privilege isn’t demonization, it’s just a fact of life.”

Fully agreed, so why did you phrase your previous analogy in a way…

then why does it address all cis people, rather than just the ones who actively oppress, or the oppressing structure? because I agree with you that the vast majority of cis people are not scum (at least when compared with the overall population).

(I’ve heard people claim that the phrase is only referring to cis people who are scum, but I’m pretty sure that if they were to see the phrase “die trans scum”, they wouldn’t assume that it’s referring only to trans people who are scum.)

Feb 26, 2012122 notes
Re: Men are not the victims of sexism.

77825225672443:

aaskew42:

amydentata:

aaskew42:

“Male privilege means men bare their knuckles without even trying to. Recognizing privilege isn’t demonization, it’s just a fact of life.”

Fully agreed, so why did you phrase your previous analogy in a way that heavily implied demonisation? “in the same way that your knuckles hurt after beating the crap out of someone” suggests active, wilful oppression, rather than the passive oppression that having privilege entails. People can’t beat the crap out of someone without even trying to […]

(Emphasis is mine.) In the context of privilege, yes they can. That is actually the primary way in which privilege functions to oppress others, at least in the absence of openly violent oppression. Most day-to-day oppression of minorities is invisible to the privileged, even those performing the oppressive acts. An example was given about Mike Tyson making a request. The person being asked knows what Mike is capable of, and the consequences of saying “no”, so even without an exertion of force, making a stern request is a violent act.

Since the rest of your post is based on this incorrect foundation, I will leave it at that.

Thanks. I understand the Mike Tyson example; but what would you then consider ‘openly violent oppression’, using the previous analogy? Because for me, the phrase “beat the crap out of someone” suggests that the acting subject is fully aware of what they are doing and chooses to do so; it thus differs from the act of hurting someone without intending to, even if the result might be the same.

Regarding Tyson - is there then any possible way in which he could act or speak that would not be violent, or is violence an unavoidable, inherent part of his existence as a privileged person within society? If so, can he rightly be blamed or condemned for something he cannot help or change?

This’ll give a good help on that. Hopefully this doesn’t seem patronizing since you seem to know what’s going on and the post is more a 101.

yep, I’ve read that post before and agree with its definition of privilege. But most of the people here seem to be arguing otherwise; in particular, that post you linked says “No one thinks he’s a bad person for totally accidentally doing harm”, but I’ve frequently witnessed the opposite in so many social justice spaces, be it directly (“people with privilege suck”) or indirectly (“die cis scum”), where people are made to feel bad solely for having privilege, and I take issue with that, even though I’m frequently on the side of the non-privileged (gender being the most prominent exception, and I still question that, because I was heavily subject to and affected by misogyny for most of my life, often more than the women I know because of my particular upbringing).

I also think that there needs to be a stronger distinction made between male privilege and cis male privilege. I fully admit I have the former, do my best to be aware of it, and am grateful when I’m called out on it. But I don’t have the latter. Some trans men do have a semblance of it, depending on their particular circumstances, and I realise that. But I’m not one of them, and it’s really erasing when people assume that I experience the world and its social structures in the same way as cis men do.

For starters, I come from a conservative country, was heavily socialised as female, and spent a large part of my early life being terrified of men because I was repeatedly told that as long as there was a man around (family member or friend or kid half my age, even), I was at risk of being raped.

I don’t know any cis man who had such an experience, while I know lots of women - cis and trans - who did, and I was frequently faced by cis men who just didn’t get it and/or thought I was being oversensitive when I tried to express that I did not feel safe around them, or when they said or did certain things or made certain jokes. I did not have the cis male privilege of being able to ignore that or be immune to that, whereas genderbitch’s post assumes that all men do by virtue of identifying as male.

Feb 26, 2012122 notes
Re: Men are not the victims of sexism.

amydentata:

aaskew42:

“Male privilege means men bare their knuckles without even trying to. Recognizing privilege isn’t demonization, it’s just a fact of life.”

Fully agreed, so why did you phrase your previous analogy in a way that heavily implied demonisation? “in the same way that your knuckles hurt after beating the crap out of someone” suggests active, wilful oppression, rather than the passive oppression that having privilege entails. People can’t beat the crap out of someone without even trying to […]

(Emphasis is mine.) In the context of privilege, yes they can. That is actually the primary way in which privilege functions to oppress others, at least in the absence of openly violent oppression. Most day-to-day oppression of minorities is invisible to the privileged, even those performing the oppressive acts. An example was given about Mike Tyson making a request. The person being asked knows what Mike is capable of, and the consequences of saying “no”, so even without an exertion of force, making a stern request is a violent act.

Since the rest of your post is based on this incorrect foundation, I will leave it at that.

Thanks. I understand the Mike Tyson example; but what would you then consider ‘openly violent oppression’, using the previous analogy? Because for me, the phrase “beat the crap out of someone” suggests that the acting subject is fully aware of what they are doing and chooses to do so; it thus differs from the act of hurting someone without intending to, even if the result might be the same.

Regarding Tyson - is there then any possible way in which he could act or speak that would not be violent, or is violence an unavoidable, inherent part of his existence as a privileged person within society? If so, can he rightly be blamed or condemned for something he cannot help or change?

Feb 25, 2012122 notes
Men are not the victims of sexism.

amydentata:

suddenly-sara:

And what of men who dont have “bruised knuckles?” What of men who treat women as equals? Are they assholes too? You really shouldn’t demonized an entire gender. NOBODY deserves sexism.

Male privilege means men bare their knuckles without even trying to. Recognizing privilege isn’t demonization, it’s just a fact of life.

c’mon Amy you’re better than this.

Don’t bother with ad hominem, it doesn’t add to the discussion.

“Male privilege means men bare their knuckles without even trying to. Recognizing privilege isn’t demonization, it’s just a fact of life.”

Fully agreed, so why did you phrase your previous analogy in a way that heavily implied demonisation? “in the same way that your knuckles hurt after beating the crap out of someone” suggests active, wilful oppression, rather than the passive oppression that having privilege entails. People can’t beat the crap out of someone without even trying to, and using that analogy suggests that privilege is something chosen, which it is not. Men being hurt by sexism is like how being used as a human cannonball to hit other humans hurts, maybe.

Men have privilege regardless of whether or not we want to or are trying to. I hate, hate, hate having male privilege and am constantly in a guilt complex over this, to the extent that I’m still struggling with the ethics of choosing to transition and accepting that I apparently have a male gender identity that refuses to go away in spite of all the feminism and repression I’ve thrown at it. I’ve been overcompensating by allowing some people to still assume that I’m female, which has been pretty bad for my dysphoria, but it’s posts like the one by genderbitch and yours - as well as bad experiences with men in my childhood and teenage years when I was perceived as female and definitely subject to sexism, where my gender dysphoria didn’t protect me at all and in fact often made it worse - which make me feel like a horrible person if I ever remotely enjoy being seen as male.

I’ve wished so often that we lived in a matriarchy, so that even if I were oppressed, I could at least enjoy my gender for once in my life, and find joy in that, rather than going from being oppressed to being seen as the oppressor by the simple act of affirming my identity.

I also know at least two trans guys who detransitioned and refused transition respectively because they did not want to obtain male privilege, at the expense of their mental health and well-being.

Which seems to be doing this wrong. I don’t think - as a gay, trans, autistic POC - that people should in any way be made to feel guilty for having privilege, because privilege is not something chosen or something you can help having, and I’m against people being made to feel guilty for things they cannot help. Privilege-denial is another matter, as is active oppression; but the mere act of having privilege is not wrong in itself.

What’s wrong is people not having privilege, and what we can and should do to change that.

Feb 25, 2012122 notes
#transgender #feminism
Suddenly Sara: Men are not the victims of sexism. → suddenly-sara.tumblr.com

amydentata:

genderbitch:

[…]

Is this dudebro for real?

Has he been living under a rock? The ridiculously higher rape and sexual assault rates against women. The wage gap. The glass ceiling. The overriding hatred of femininity (something associated with women) in society. The social…

…well, this trans man here has experienced a lot of those things that genderbitch claims no man ever has, to the point of being triggered by that stuff, knows at least one other trans man who got it far worse, and as a trans woman I’d think she’d take intersectionality into account and be less rigid about enforcing artificial boundaries especially regarding socialisation.

EDIT: also, if it’s okay, don’t respond to this post unless you’re very, very calm. I’m on the border of being triggered here, and it might not take much to send me over.

EDIT2: eff this, too late. KLEENEXWOMAN, I NEED HUGS :(

Feb 25, 2012122 notes
expectation is the root of all heartache: i’m about to just grow my hair out and start being a girl again. i... → heavyheartsundevoted.tumblr.com

heavyheartsundevoted:

i’m about to just grow my hair out and start being a girl again. i can’t take this, i can’t take loosing everything because of this. i can’t be happy no matter what i do. i’m my real self and everyone just leaves and i’m hiding and miserable but i have everyone. i hate my life. i just want to die….

right now:

stop.

breathe.

you don’t need the world to validate you.
you don’t need their permission to be who you are.
friends will come and go. as will family. but you’ll always be you, and so that’s what you’ve got to think about, for now, even if it’s selfish. you have to be able to live with yourself.

imagine a future. a perfect future. where everything is fine. where people see you as male, and you have new friends who also see you as male, and people who love you, as you do yourself. where you no longer hate your life.

make it beautiful. and then remember that image, and hold on to it when things get bad. and promise yourself that, no matter what, you will have that vision become reality one day.

and i know that this is extremely cliche, but as a fellow trans guy who was in a very similar position to you just a year ago, i mean this in every way possible: it gets better.

believe it will.

make it happen.

if you’re not yet happy, it just means your story isn’t over yet.

Feb 20, 20123 notes
#transgender
Feb 18, 201217 notes
#keanu reeves
Feb 16, 2012784 notes
#transgender
ftmcynicism: I get livid when I see more and more people detransition because of... → ftmcynicism.tumblr.com

regularguy93:

ftmcynicism:

I get livid when I see more and more people detransition because of the harmful effect it has on accessibility of medical treatment for men who truly need that medical care to live. Guys who will be beginning their transitions five or ten years from now will have to deal with the fallout of the…

Harsh, but I do agree with this. I really don’t understand how someone could medically transition and then realize that it isn’t what they’re supposed to do. Medical transition is undertaken out of the necessity to live.

I know at least some people detransition for medical reasons, where continuing T could quite literally kill them (or just make their health really bad), and they decide that they’d rather live than die, even if it means suffering from dysphoria. I don’t really think that that’s a reason to consider them less than trans; I have a friend who really wants to go on T but has medical issues standing in the way, and so at the moment is trying to come to terms with his body. I don’t think that makes him ‘really’ a girl, as the people on that blog seem to claim.

While I personally fell into the ‘transition or die’ category, it took till I was 21 to get to that point, and I doubt I was any less trans in the years preceding that.

Feb 13, 201214 notes
Feb 13, 20129 notes
#transgender #ftm

riceivore:

aaskew42:

BECAUSE KEANUCEST IS ONLY LOGICAL THAT’S WHY, AND YOUR FIC GAVE ME ALL THE WARM FUZZY FEELINGS :’)

I LOVE HOW YOU SHIP THEM AS MUCH AS I DO. :D

and thank you! :3

also where is the Ted/Scott that stallionducksandkeanuicorns wrote. :| i want. 

as payment, more of mine:

Neo/Constantine: http://www.whoaisnotme.net/anakinmcfly/stories/neojohn.htm

Neo and Keanu: http://www.whoaisnotme.net/anakinmcfly/stories/fornowisee.htm

MOAR: http://www.whoaisnotme.net/anakinmcfly/kenlist.htm

keanucest is so logical. ;u; AND WARM FUZZY FEELINGS IS WHAT I WAS AIMING FOR. I’ll most likely be continuing the fic—I mean, I’ve already got ideas for a sequel in Zion and a threequel with Conor saving someone from the Matrix and… pffffff me and my need to develop relationships. :I

I didn’t know there were other Keanucest shippers out there. BUT PERSONALLY IT MAKES ME HAPPY

i could totes show you the fic if stallionducksandkeanunicorns lets me o: I’ve actually written a bunch of Keanucest paragraphs for her— Johnny Utah/Ted, Alex/Klaatu, John/Bob Arctor, John/Neo/Ted/Johnny, Neo/Thomas A. Anderson (yup), David/Jack Traven, Conor/Scott, Keanu/Ted, Everyone/Keanu… and all of them are of questionable ratings. :| Although they really are just one paragraph each. I blame the tumblr ask limit.

THESE FICS THOUGH.

HOW

CAN

I

WORDS

I THINK I LOVE YOU TO PIECES. /CRIES

john wanting neo and neo in denial and keanu + neo semi-domesticity with all that angst and sadness and omg ALL THESE FICS

I am dead. My body fell on all the right keys to type this.

THOSE ARE SOME AMAZING PAIRINGS THERE. some of which I’ve never even thought up. Conor/Scott… YES. It would be so beautifully messed up.

trinityhelp is my keanucest partner in crime. :D She co-wrote the Conor/Neo scriptfic with me over MSN, among many others (note how it was numbered #26… the numbers go up to, um, #98, and the fics total over 100k words because we are awesome that way. It’s not all keanucest though, and we added in a lot of Heroes (started because Sylar/Spock = awesome hateship, and then it just moved from there into other quintocest) and Cowboy Bebop into the mix).

also for the purpose of Hardball/Matrix crossovers, which we just started RPing, we came up with the possible theory that Neo and Conor were pod!twins that got separated at birth by the machines. unfortunately this makes things kind of incestuous if it were to progress to slash, so other theories are welcome. XD

<333

and um maybe you should pass me your e-mail address. XD There are people following this tumblr who aren’t here for Keanu. and because then I can E-MAIL YOU THINGS including this awesome (sadly incomplete) scriptfic by a friend of mine in which all the Keanuspawn and Keanu take part in a reality TV series. it’s amazing. multiple people have agreed it’s amazing. sadly it is incomplete and she doesn’t seem likely to continue it any time soon.

alternatively, sign up at http://www.whoaisnotme.net (my Keanu site) and start a thread, because there are other people who share the love, and forums are much easier to communicate on than Tumblr.

Feb 4, 20128 notes
#keanu reeves

riceivore:

aaskew42:

omg watching each other sleep <33333

fkldj;fdla THIS IS PERFECT AND I. LOVE. YOU. XD

in my gratefulness, here’s another Coneo fic I wrote once: http://anivad.livejournal.com/853063.html

NOPE IT’S NOT PERFECT NOT REALLY

BUT YOURS

YOURS IS LIKE

WHAT

CONOR NO

NEO WILL COME BACK FOR YOU

…UNLESS HE’S ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE MACHINE CITY AND…

IN THAT CASE MY HEART IS JUST BROKEN :’(

all the keanucest feelings why do they exist

/sobs

BECAUSE KEANUCEST IS ONLY LOGICAL THAT’S WHY,
AND YOUR FIC GAVE ME ALL THE WARM FUZZY FEELINGS :’)

I LOVE HOW YOU SHIP THEM AS MUCH AS I DO. :D

and thank you! :3

also where is the Ted/Scott that stallionducksandkeanuicorns wrote. :| i want. 

as payment, more of mine:

Neo/Constantine: http://www.whoaisnotme.net/anakinmcfly/stories/neojohn.htm

Neo and Keanu: http://www.whoaisnotme.net/anakinmcfly/stories/fornowisee.htm

MOAR: http://www.whoaisnotme.net/anakinmcfly/kenlist.htm

Feb 4, 20128 notes
#keanu reeves
Feb 3, 201210,706 notes
#transgender #feminism
To Err // keanuspawn fic

riceivore:

Title:To Err
Fandom: Matrix/Hardball crossover
Pairing: Neo/Conor O’Neill pre-slash
Word Count: 969
Summary: Conor knew not.

Read More

omg watching each other sleep <33333
fkldj;fdla THIS IS PERFECT AND I. LOVE. YOU. XD

in my gratefulness, here’s another Coneo fic I wrote once: http://anivad.livejournal.com/853063.html

Feb 3, 20128 notes
#keanu reeves
Feb 2, 201218 notes
#keanu reeves
My wifey wrote me Keanuporn.

riceivore:

SOBBING

(this is anivad42 being incognito because my brother follows my main blog and that would be awkward):

WAIT WHAT WHERE LINKS


…also I would like to shamelessly plug my own fic: 

http://www.whoaisnotme.net/anakinmcfly/kenlist.htm

(scroll down to Keanuspawn. most are not porn, some are vaguely porn but not quite.)

Feb 2, 20122 notes
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